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Czyli na razie nie ma szans na powrót L5R do korzeni

Chyba nie.

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Jakaś grupa zapaleńców zabrała się do fanowskiego poprawiania gry. Po tygodniach dyskusji opublikowali wstępny dokument z proponowanymi zmianami. W pierwszym rzucie likwidacja Rally jako mechaniki i ban prawie 50-kart.

Dorzuciłem do pierwszego posta Kakita Seiyami z The Blackest Storm.

Zinser włączył się do dyskusji na temat hipotetycznego systemu dla L5R 3.0. Ciekawe.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/160842683946823/permalink/3989352461095807?comment_id=3989825294381857

John Zinser
I think the answer for competitive card games is some sort of hybrid release system. LCG format for many of the cards in each set and CCG style for limited portions of the set or upgraded cards. The monthly packs is IMO not a good way to manage a card pool. Having to change your deck every 30 days is not fun and it is hard to keep up. I would suggest new cards every 90-150 days.
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Jed Carleton
John Zinser LCG for Faction specific cards, CCG for staples / unfactioned cards? Sort of would let you use the special set functionality to put out storyline based cards too.
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Eric Steiger
I wonder if there isn't something to be said for faction-specific packs. One of the big issues to getting into an LCG is the number of packs it takes once it's been established for some time. If you could get a single starter, a Clan upgrade pack or two, and neutrals, it would make the on-ramp a lot less expensive.
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Jeffrey Dohm-Sanchez
John Zinser I disagree. I think it entirely depends on the gameplay. L5R is fine as an LCG cause of how the clans are set up (players only really need to know the cards in their clan). L5R is also closer to a minis strategy/tactics game than other CCGs are.
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John Zinser
Eric Steiger the biggest hurdle with the LCG model from the business side is selling enough cards to make it profitable. There is a world where you can charge a premium but not ridiculous price to avoid booster packs. If you sell faction packs for a 8 faction game it means you are likely selling 1/8 of what you would sell of a normal LCG release. In my hybrid idea you would charge a premium for the faction packs and then in boosters you could go back to having multiple levels of rarity and super rare super valuable cards that would drive pack sales but not be detrimental to being able to play the game competitively. For boosters to work you would need to put some new cards in them just doing shiny versions of cards they can get in the LCG style packs is a non starter.
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John Zinser
Jeffrey Dohm-Sanchez it is fine as an LCG if it had more players. Going from a CCG to LCG model cuts your income and profit by 50%. Meaning the reason to do it is the expectation that selling the LCG will create at least 2X the customers.

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2021/2/17/under-fu-lengs-shadow/

Ma ktoś jakieś dojścia do PT LCG? Z wszystkimi LCG'ami pvp było tak, że jak przez 6 m-cy nie było nowych kart do testów to było już pozamiatane.

Ogólnie zauważyłem zmianę retoryki pośród niektórych wtajemniczonych piewców gry legendopodobnej - często pojawia się "a nawet jeśli...", "pomimo wszystko...", "przecież karty nie znikną..." itd. Gdzie jeszcze rok temu było jasno i prosto o nadchodzących dodatkach dużych i małych.

Ktoś spróbował zarchiwizować legendowe fanty tj rpg, lcg i bfg:

https://www.reddit.com/r/rokugan/comments/kkrm0e/archive_of_ffgs_l5r_forums/