L5R wykupione przez FFG! aka L5R LCG

[kempy]

FFG na swoim profilu usunęło z sklepu online DrivethruRPG wszystkie podręczniki do RPG wydane przez AEG. Przedtem była tam dostępna m.in. cała czwarta edycja łącznie z Atlasem.

[kempy]

Ma ktoś jakieś dojścia do PT LCG? Z wszystkimi LCG'ami pvp było tak, że jak przez 6 m-cy nie było nowych kart do testów to było już pozamiatane.

Ogólnie zauważyłem zmianę retoryki pośród niektórych wtajemniczonych piewców gry legendopodobnej - często pojawia się "a nawet jeśli...", "pomimo wszystko...", "przecież karty nie znikną..." itd. Gdzie jeszcze rok temu było jasno i prosto o nadchodzących dodatkach dużych i małych.

[kempy]

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2021/2/17/future-of-legend/

Koniec, nie ma już nic.

[gaijin]

FFG idze chyba na rekord w liczbie gier, które udało im się zabić po przejęciu...

Dobra, teraz pytanie brzmi: kiedy powrót CCG  ?

[kempy]

• L5C33 –  As Honor Demands Dynasty Pack (Dominion Cycle/5)
• L5C34 –  Atonement Dynasty Pack (Dominion Cycle/6)
• L5C35 –  "core set 2.0" at some point under playtest but never released.
• L5C36 –  Twisted Loyalties Dynasty Pack (Temptation Cycle/1)
• L5C37 –  Honor in Flames Dynasty Pack (Temptation Cycle/2)

Hehe, czyli mniej więcej można można ustalić moment kiedy położono laskę na nowe krążki.

[kempy]

Zinser włączył się do dyskusji na temat hipotetycznego systemu dla L5R 3.0. Ciekawe.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/160842683946823/permalink/3989352461095807?comment_id=3989825294381857

John Zinser
I think the answer for competitive card games is some sort of hybrid release system. LCG format for many of the cards in each set and CCG style for limited portions of the set or upgraded cards. The monthly packs is IMO not a good way to manage a card pool. Having to change your deck every 30 days is not fun and it is hard to keep up. I would suggest new cards every 90-150 days.
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Jed Carleton
John Zinser LCG for Faction specific cards, CCG for staples / unfactioned cards? Sort of would let you use the special set functionality to put out storyline based cards too.
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Eric Steiger
I wonder if there isn't something to be said for faction-specific packs. One of the big issues to getting into an LCG is the number of packs it takes once it's been established for some time. If you could get a single starter, a Clan upgrade pack or two, and neutrals, it would make the on-ramp a lot less expensive.
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Jeffrey Dohm-Sanchez
John Zinser I disagree. I think it entirely depends on the gameplay. L5R is fine as an LCG cause of how the clans are set up (players only really need to know the cards in their clan). L5R is also closer to a minis strategy/tactics game than other CCGs are.
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John Zinser
Eric Steiger the biggest hurdle with the LCG model from the business side is selling enough cards to make it profitable. There is a world where you can charge a premium but not ridiculous price to avoid booster packs. If you sell faction packs for a 8 faction game it means you are likely selling 1/8 of what you would sell of a normal LCG release. In my hybrid idea you would charge a premium for the faction packs and then in boosters you could go back to having multiple levels of rarity and super rare super valuable cards that would drive pack sales but not be detrimental to being able to play the game competitively. For boosters to work you would need to put some new cards in them just doing shiny versions of cards they can get in the LCG style packs is a non starter.
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John Zinser
Jeffrey Dohm-Sanchez it is fine as an LCG if it had more players. Going from a CCG to LCG model cuts your income and profit by 50%. Meaning the reason to do it is the expectation that selling the LCG will create at least 2X the customers.

[kempy]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/160842683946823/permalink/3989352461095807/?comment_id=3989521477745572&reply_comment_id=3994658253898561

Rob Hobart

From what I heard second-hard at AEG (the full details were never shared with us mere employees), FFG/Asmodee spent at least two million dollars to purchase L5R.
At this point they cannot possibly get the same or more back by re-selling it -- the value of the IP has certainly been diminished by the failure of the LCG. So they will likely hold on to the IP in the hope of eventually generating enough revenue to justify the original purchase."

[Togashi Sparrow]

Czyli na razie nie ma szans na powrót L5R do korzeni

[kempy]

Czyli na razie nie ma szans na powrót L5R do korzeni

Chyba nie.


Jakaś grupa zapaleńców zabrała się do fanowskiego poprawiania gry. Po tygodniach dyskusji opublikowali wstępny dokument z proponowanymi zmianami. W pierwszym rzucie likwidacja Rally jako mechaniki i ban prawie 50-kart.

[Jar Jar]

Powiedzmy sobie wprost, ich wymysły i tłumaczenia tak szerokiej banlisty (z usunięciem mechanaiki Rally poprzez zbanowanie wszystkich kart z tym keywordem na czele [w sumie 25 kart], zmiast po prostu zdezaktywowanie samego keywordu) są po prostu debilne.

[kempy]

Wywiad z Papugą: https://courtgamespod.com/post-mortem-with-tyler-parrot/?fbclid=IwAR0CYmDtqnqIfEVDlHYg6MvYm78f-Mr4oo_AlWPs0sAMhxMLUG5XgXGFxi4

TL;DR z FB:

Aconyte and Edge continuing with the IP for novels and RPG, no mention of anything else. Encouraged fans to produce new content for the LCG. Final balance update to follow Under Fu Leng's Shadow. Game end was decided pre-covid, the only difference would have been in-person end of game events.

[kempy]

https://www.facebook.com/CCGhistory/posts/133158655475764?comment_id=133161668808796



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https://www.facebook.com/CCGhistory/posts/133158655475764?comment_id=133173568807606

[kempy]

[kempy]

Denton III aka Spooky.

Taka a nie inna orientacja Yakamo została potwierdzona ponoć w ostatnim oficjalnym opowiadaniu.

[kempy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqFLx_VeAOA

"In this game all personalities have cancer and you can avoid their death by giving them extra chemoteraphy."

[kempy]

6 lat! Zdrówko!

[kempy]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/160842683946823/posts/4769128416451537/

Ramón Peña
Does anybody in the inside know what the overall title or the story arc was going to be? I realize this is merely an academical issue, but maybe someone working for AEG in that moment can share this info, for posterity's sake?

Fred Wan
I know what my thoughts, plans, and intentions were, but we were still at the "each stakeholder weighs in" stage, so my thoughts don't necessarily represent what Story as a whole would have wanted after everyone on the Team had a chance to compare notes, or what the game as a whole would have done after Design & Brand weighed in.

Rob Hobart
My memories mesh with Fred's -- we didn't have any official "arc title" for the storyline, which was supposed to kick off with Onyx and go for... as long as it might go.
Unlike previous arcs there was no automatic ending planned -- the idea was that the fate of the fallen Empire (which Zinser described simply as "literal Hell on Earth") would be in the players' hands and it was possible for there to ultimately be no recovery, no salvation.

[kempy]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/160842683946823/posts/4771427296221649?comment_id=4771583882872657

Rob Hobart
As a concept, the Spider Clan -- created to allow the Shadowlands to compete in the Race for the Throne -- could have worked, but IMO it was poorly presented in the storyline (a timeline jump between Lotus and Samurai was desperately needed to properly set things up, but we didn't get one) and then allowed to stick around after the Race when it should have been a one-and-done faction. The bizarre hoops Story and RPG had to jump through to keep the Spider around as a faction post-Race were severely damaging to the integrity of the setting, especially with the "New Taint" debacle.
There were very solid reasons -- not just commercial, but also story/setting-wise -- why Zinser descended from on high in late 2013 and ordered the Story Team to get rid of all that cr*p, bring back the real Taint, and make the Spider back into proper Shadowlands bad guys. I was personally thrilled when those decisions were announced and felt like L5R was finally getting back on track.

[kempy]

Asmodee na targach/konwencie Origins sprzedaje np. deluxa Children of the Empire po pięć dolarów sztuka. Nie wiem czy ktoś będzie chciał tyle przepłacić.

[kempy]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/160842683946823/posts/5613905295307174/